bad jobs news on a day that we see weekly jobless claims rising and planned layoff spiking, president obama's job council is officially disbanding. the group of business and labor leaders is out of commission. and my next guests say, good timing, not. the small, guys say that white house is letting them down, again. baker, and hospitality executive and restaurant owner. they met with the president back in 2009, and has not seen much help since. let's start with you, marco, you were are the president, what was that about? what did he say to you. >> tom, when i met with the president 3 years ago, he had just announced the economic stimulus act, he told me this would help small business owners and entrepreneurs like myself go out there and grow their business and create more job the. we're hearing today, making no sense, it is the opposite, why in the world would the white house disband their count is jobs -- council on jobs. >> they met 4 times in two years, toma, did you feel that government would solve when issues you needed in the hospitality business? >> no, we thought they would never solv